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Friday, August 04, 2006

What's Wrong with Cindi Scoppe?

No, I'm not talking about the non-standard spelling of her first name.

Lately, Cindi Scoppe has been obsessed with squelching the free speech rights of anyone interested in participating in South Carolina politics. This time, she's going after convenient bogeyman SCRG for daring to fight for the rights of South Carolina children with out-of-state money. The horror! Finally, someone is sending money into South Carolina. Clearly, nothing good can come of this.

Any rational person who saw those postcards, particularly the ones that were attached to plastic pink pigs, would consider them an attempt to “influence the outcome” of the primaries — which triggers state reporting requirements.

Here's the problem. There's nothing wrong with trying to influence the outcome of elections. In our democracy, we the people govern ourselves. But only after widespread campaigning, cajoling, debate and deliberation. As citizens, we owe each other reasons for wanting to pursue this policy or that one or electing this politician and not the other. Participation in politics should not be a taboo—it's closer to being a duty. (But it's not actually a duty; I don't advocate throwing pepole in jail for not voting.)

Anyway, where was I? Oh that's right. Those postcards. Here's the deal.

Cindi, sweetheart. You work for a private corporation. A private, out-of-state corporation. A private, out-of-state corporation that tries to influence the outcome of elections. The private, out-of-state corporation that you work for spends quite a bit more money in production and distribution costs than SCRG, even if sometimes to a lesser effect.

Now what if the State Elections Commission were to come to The State and say, "Look, we've had some pretty close elections lately. We know you've been spending a lot of money to influence those elections. We know you're out-of-state company. We just want to make sure that everything is done fair, according to the book. We just want to know the names of all your investors and the exact amount you use to publish your daily newspaper with its endorsements and pronounced left-wing political coverage."

What do you think the reaction to that would be? Scoppe and Warthen would complain that it's a violation of freedom of speech since under the Constitution, people have the right to speak without prior restraint. And you know what? They'd be right.

Oh, but Cindi's not done yet. There's also this beauty of a column from yesterday. In it, Ms. Scoppe equates Tommy Moore's decision to take money from the Chemical and Nuclear Waste industry to Mark Sanford's acceptance of contributions to fight for every child's chance to attend a school that works for them.

Just to recap: According to Scoppe...

Shilling for the Chemical and Nuclear Industry to Import Waste into South Carolina = Fighting for Every Parent's Right to Send Kids to a Safe, High-Achieving School.

Does that seem right to you?


Posted by Bill Smith at 12:03 PM | 21 comments

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# posted by Anonymous : 8/04/2006 04:05:00 PM
 
Nice job Bill. I hadn't thought about the fact the "thestatemulletwrapper" is an out-of-state entity receiving out-of-state funds and that attempts to affect SC elections. Of course they are...and of course they'd squeal like a hog stuck under a gate if they were ever challenged on it by the SC Elections Commission. What is good and restrictive public policy for everyone else simply cannot apply to them ~ the intelligentsia ~ the elite, doncha know! This is precisely analogous to their ridiculously hypocritical stand on taxes: They absolutely LOVE taxes when they affect the behaviour of South Carolinians in ways they happen to like...(you know, you've seen Scoppes' rants...less fat, less alcohol, less cholesterol, smaller cars, stuck in lousy public schools et cetera, et cetera, et cetera). They HATE however that taxes may affect the behaviour of sensible South Carolinians in ways they don't like....as in shopping in other states or on the net where taxes are less confiscatory. These people are shameless. And sad. It does me good to know that they are, in general, a dying breed...newspapers are like buggy whips, vinyl records and CBS/ABC/NBC...Interesting in a harmless and irrelevant sort of way. Nice to remember way back when but wouldn't want to go back there. I especially like that I can get everything I want from "thestatemulletwrapper" (which isn't much by the way)without paying a dime for it. I've never really understood why newspapers go online and give their stuff away...this is a business plan like no other that I know of, and it, like nearly every thing else about them point to extinction. It will be a good thing. What I intend to do on the grave of "thestatemulletwrapper" won't pass for flowers. Fritz
# posted by Anonymous : 8/04/2006 09:41:00 PM
 
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# posted by Anonymous : 8/05/2006 01:10:00 AM
 
Yea. How can we trust someone who works for SCRG. They wont even tell the public where their money comes from or who is paing them off/
# posted by Anonymous : 8/05/2006 01:12:00 AM
 
It is none of our business where SCRG gets its' money. As long as they get it from legal sources and obey the laws here governing its' expenditure, they are free to do as they wish, and more power to them. This whole arguement is a red herring anyway...it is much ado about nothing. Those who wave their arms wildly and shout inanities about evil and insidious "outsiders" who (supposedly) have a nefarious anti-South Carolina agenda apparently only bring this foolishness up because they have nothing else. This is exactly the position "thestatemulletwrapper" has taken...they seem literally to have nothing else. If anyone DOES have any better arguements, please tell us what they are...I'd really like to hear them because this "evil outsiders" thing just doesn't wash. In fact, for the life of me, I cannot see how the fact that organizations not located in SC spending money here to forward a pro-child, pro-education-reform agenda harms us in any way. Seems to me it helps educate parents that there is a better way to secure a decent education for their children. "When better is attainable, good enough is always insufficient." Fritz
# posted by Anonymous : 8/05/2006 09:07:00 PM
 
When Bill-Fritz removes one of our posts we are encouraged that we are striking his nerve of truth. He can't handle the truth. Bill-Fritz, third world ministers of propaganda, SCRG employees and paid politcal consultant weenies only want the public to see their version of the truth.

So Bill-Fritz will continue to remove our posts when we strike the nerve of truth.
We will repost them at our new blog:
www.wedontbelievebillsmith.com
Watch for it.

The mirror site will be:
www.wedontbelievescrg.com
# posted by Anonymous : 8/05/2006 09:34:00 PM
 
Bill, I noted your earlier comment about keeping on topic and not getting into foolishness and name calling, and I have taken it to heart. I for one had allowed emotions to get the better of me and I took my eye off the ball, swerving into a pointless attempt to argue on a personal basis with one of my detractors. I realized pretty quickly that this is an exercise in futility, and intend never to do it again. The people that come here and call names and hurl personal epithets are intellectually vacant and morally bankrupt. The "intellectually vacant" part speaks for itself, but I also believe it is immoral in to support and defend the tyranny of excessive taxation for the purpose of redistributing income from earners to nonearners and to support a bloated, wasteful and corrupt government. Besides...it isn't necessary to argue with these people, the facts are what they are, and folks like you and I are right about things. We don't have to give anybody hell, we just say the truth and they think it's hell. (Borrowed loosely from President Truman I believe). So, no more arguement from me, I'm satisfied to let the unvarnished truth argue for me. Fritz
# posted by Anonymous : 8/05/2006 09:40:00 PM
 
Fritz-Bill says it is none of our business where SCRC gets its money.
We strongly disagree.

And we sense his anger at us and his anger at the truth we bring here.

Fritz-Bill and Bill-Fritz. One and the same. He has proven that. Our posts are always on topic. He questions the motives and honesty of The State. We question his honesty and motives as a paid political consultant and as a wannabe third world minister of propaganda with a corner office at SCRG. Calling us foolish and mentioning name calling is certainly funny coming from Bill-Fritz who is the king of potty mouthed name calling.

Yes, Bill_Fritz, 'we the people' do have a right to know where your masters get their money since they are working to influence elections. You say the money is from "legal sources" and you say they "obey the laws." How do you know? Devine insight? We appreciate the first hand insight you get from your SCRG desk, but we want you and your masters to prove that the money is legal and prove they are obeying the law.

What do you have to hide? Bring your donor list out of the closet. Sunshine is a wonderful disinfectant; so we have heard.
# posted by Anonymous : 8/05/2006 10:26:00 PM
 
The fact Bill-Fritz deleted one of our posts proves one of our topical points.
He can't stand the truth.

Let's see of he has the nerve to put it back now that we have pointed that out.
Probably not. He likes to hide in the closet with the SCRG donor.
# posted by Anonymous : 8/05/2006 10:49:00 PM
 
Hey, now I know who they are. They are the same sleazebags who sent out slimy and vicious anonymous mailings about some school board candidates around the state a couple of years ago. I remember reading about them in the paper. They also attacked a couple of local Republicans who refused to blindly follow their lead in attacking public education. Looks like their leadership has some direct ties to the seafood industry, the lieutenant governor and to a former member of the House who lost reelection and then lost in an attempt to be Treasurer. Looks like Hillary was right. A vast right wing conspiracy. I agree with anon. It is time for SCRG to stop hiding and be honest.
# posted by Anonymous : 8/05/2006 11:38:00 PM
 
I don't know Ms. Scoppe but she sure does get it and is right on the money about SCRG. They should be ashamed. I hope she keeps these creeps in the spotlight until they are exposed for what they really are.
# posted by Anonymous : 8/06/2006 07:36:00 AM
 
Gosh yea. SCRG sure does need to start being honest for a change. Who knows who is giving them money and who knows where the money is coming from? Nobody can trust them when they hide this. I sure hope The State will keep up the pressure on them and on the Ethics people to make them follow the laws. Right now they are thumbing their nose at us and at the ethics laws.
# posted by Anonymous : 8/06/2006 02:33:00 PM
 
The fundamental issue here is that Scoppe defends the First Amendment when it comes to her rights but not when it comes to others.

Mr. Smith, you have hit the nail on the head.
# posted by Charlie : 8/07/2006 04:37:00 AM
 
The fundamental issue here is that this blog was created by and for a teeny tiny crackpot minority who have nothing better to do than spread their ultra hardcore right wing political rhetoric like compost in the garden. Their philosophy is sling the bull***t and see what pops up.
# posted by Anonymous : 8/07/2006 06:45:00 AM
 
Ohh gosh. Now we have the 'wisdom' of Charlie. Check out Charlie's blog where he calls Islam a "dogshit religion." He also thinks women "live to suck and bleed a man dry" and that "a wife is a luxury item." Just when we thought Bill-Fritz was the biggest potty mouthed crackpot in the blogsphere, along comes Charlie. Crackpots of the World, unite and save us from ourselves.

By the way, our hat is made out of aluminum foil; not tin foil as Bill-Fritz charged. We like the aluminum because it gives us better reception with our mothership. Now, excuse us while we communicate: Beam us up Scotty. There is no sign of intelligent life at this blog site.
# posted by Anonymous : 8/07/2006 08:31:00 PM
 
I rather like Charlie's blog.

The guy has provocative opinions that are backed up by reasons.

Of course I wouldn't expect you to give the context of those comments. That would be— what's the word I'm looking for? — honest.
# posted by Anonymous : 8/08/2006 11:39:00 AM
 
I looked at that blog. Another crackpot.
# posted by Anonymous : 8/09/2006 07:34:00 AM
 
Though ages come and go,
though mountains wear away and seas retire;
Destruction lays the earths' mighty golden cities low and
empires, states and dynasties expire.
But caught, and handed onward to the wise, truth never dies.
# posted by Anonymous : 8/10/2006 09:48:00 PM
 
Why does it matter where SCRG gets their money? You continually whine about revealing donors, but when it comes to reforming a school system that cheats our students and shames our state you have nothing to contribute. Let SCRG get the money from wherever they want...at least they're doing something about the problem you avoid.
# posted by Anonymous : 8/11/2006 03:56:00 PM
 
It's the poverty stupid and underfunded schools. The shameful scam that SCRG (even the name is a scam) is trying to pull on S.C. will only help the more wealthy families with a tax break and help fuel more "white flight." What will the SCRG scam do to get private schools to open in areas that even WalMart won't build in because there is not enough revenue potential? Nothing. What will this scam to to help families in poverty place their children in those phantom private schools? Nothing. What will this scam do to help the underfunded schools that are struggling to deliver the best education possible? Nothing. Remember that the SC Legislature seems happy with delivering a "minimally adequate education" to its citizens. Shame.

Watch and learn: CORRIDOR OF SHAME: The Neglect of South Carolina's Rural Schools
http://www.corridorofshame.com/

The shameful propaganda ministers who are trying to sell this tripe in S.C. need to crawl back under their rock and give the blood money back to their out of state masters. Choose Children First: Beware of the Wolf, http://www.choosechildrenfirst.com/
# posted by Anonymous : 8/12/2006 08:35:00 PM
 
That's right...contain the children in their present situation. I mean, after all, just because an idea like school choice has been proven all around the world doesn't mean it will work here. Clearly the 6+ billion we spend on public education in South Carolina is at fault for the laughable results. Now that's what I call underfunding! You denigrate a proven concept, while advocating a "solution" that has never solved anything. You are an ad hominem slinging joke.
# posted by Anonymous : 8/14/2006 10:18:00 AM
 
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